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As for you personally, forgive me, have you felt the impact of these stresses, this horror, maybe even depression since the beginning of the full-scale invasion? 

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Because I know your story, how you saved your family from Bucha, how you were getting prepared, how you evacuated your children, your wife, so, accordingly,

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you could not have been in a balanced state. On the contrary, it would have been an unhealthy reaction. Then what kept you going when you were in that horror? 

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You probably still remember those moments, right?

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I’m sure I was holding on with adrenaline and glucose, because I didn’t want to eat anything. We have a petrol station nearby. And there was a message on TV to stock up on food. 

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I sent my family right away, on the day the war started. At 5 a.m., as soon as it started and we started to hear everything in Hostomel rumbling, I sent them abroad.

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I stayed behind to defend the house, not knowing what was coming, and I stocked up on sweets because I realised that I would need glucose if there was no food or electricity. 

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. I also stocked up on fuel, and on adrenaline and stress, I was waiting for further instructions from the state on what to do and where to go next. 

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How long did you stay?
	One, two, three... On the third day, I left with my brother. 
	And during these three days you were doubly terrified, 

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because you personally found yourself in the very centre of hell, you can say that, and you should say that. 

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There were also thoughts and worries about whether your [family] had made it or not. 

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I didn’t know what was happening on the road at all. I only understood what was being transmitted to me on the phone – information about the horrors on the roads. 

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Personally, when I was leaving, I wanted to return to Kyiv because I had a surgery scheduled and patients were hospitalised. But the bridge had already been blown up, 

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and I could not go through Bucha or Stoianka. My only option was to move towards Zhytomyr. I packed my dog in the car, my brother put our other dog in his car, 

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and we drove in two cars past the infantry fighting vehicles of these monsters, surprisingly. Because the cars that turned left were all shot there. 

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And the people from the neighbouring street who just drove towards the supermarket... You may remember these shots where they [the occupiers] are standing

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and shooting at cars from behind the supermarket, from behind the air conditioners. We also wanted to go that way, 

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but for some reason we thought it would be better to go “head-on” and let it happen.
	But God led you away?
	He did. He saved us.


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Do you often remember those moments now?
          I try not to, I try to stay positive. Because when you work with difficult patients who have cancer, 

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believe me, they have so much stress, so much trouble, so much suffering that they definitely do not need a doctor who is also stressed. 

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What they need is a doctor who will encourage them, fight for them, and do so in an uplifting spirit. It’s important for patients. For patients, it is very important what emotional state a doctor is in.

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And even considering the fact that you support yourself and, accordingly, the necessary level of vitamins, because you have to do it, because 

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you are a conscious person and have such opportunities... But I am absolutely sure that there are still thoughts and memories that you cannot disown even with a great desire, 

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and one way or another they automatically appear in your memories, in your memory, perhaps even unexpectedly.

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Yes. That night before the war, when we sat down and discussed what we were going to do. Then martial law was introduced... Or it was a state of emergency at first... 

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[We were] thinking about what we would do. But there would be no war! What war? Maybe something will start somewhere in the East, but there will be no war here. 

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And I made an absolutely unalterable decision very quickly, within 5 minutes, when it all started, to evacuate my family. In five minutes.

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I was incredibly surprised at those people who had the opportunity to evacuate and lost their families. Those who were also in Bucha, who could have done it, 

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but for some reason did not make this risky but quick decision. And this is where surgery helped me. 

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It’s always like that in surgery: you have to make a quick decision that you think is right. And I am making the right decision here. 

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Is it possible to get rid of terrible memories with the help of vitamins? This question may sound strange, but it seems to me that now we have to grasp at any 

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straw to save our nervous system, protect it and really try to put ourselves in a kind of cocoon of self-preservation.

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This is the cocoon. The right concentration of vitamins in the body is a cocoon from mental stress. You know, we are saturated with information. 

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We are oversaturated with information, we get it from different sources. You and I are not apolitical. We follow politics, we follow what is happening in the country. 

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Personally, I communicate with politicians, I communicate with the military who are on the front line, and sometimes there is such an imbalance that also causes me mental stress. 

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Because I don’t understand: Some people tell me one thing, and others say something completely different. It is impossible to be in an absolute cocoon now. It is simply impossible.

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You can reduce the amount of time you spend watching news feeds, but one way or another, you live in it.
	Personally, I find it difficult. I tried it. I thought if I watched less [news], 

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something would change. No. On the contrary, I am more worried then. I have to read the news, find out what is happening at the front. There are brigades there 

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with whom we communicate. They write back somewhere. Right now, by the way, I’m looking for a car, I’m begging for one, because I have to buy it quickly, I want to buy a car quickly. 

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Because the military have absolutely nothing to drive around in. They have some rat rod that is about to break down, and there is no support for this brigade. 

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They said they don’t have enough money. The guys who brought me the car are already serving. They went to serve, and now I can’t find people to bring me a car from abroad. 

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So this stress is only getting worse. Because I’m asked, and I’m ready, I have the opportunity, I want to, but I don’t have the means to do it. I mean people. 

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So, by the way, if anyone has such contacts, please let me know. If someone is engaged in transporting cars from abroad to Ukraine, I would be happy to buy a few cars for our military.

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Please write it in the comments. Anton Shkiriak will look at these comments and will definitely look for the comment that Anton has just asked you to make among all 

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your thoughts that you leave under this video. If indeed you have such an opportunity. Since the start of the full-scale invasion, what have your patients taught you? 

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I was surprised at how much my patients started to support my fundraising, because for the first 3 months it was a purely volunteer work. I left medicine, you could say,

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like everyone else, in principle, left their professions at that time. We were like one big fist called Ukraine. I did volunteering, I made arrangements with my friends from abroad, 

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and I had many patients who were ambassadors of different countries in Ukraine. I contacted them, and we transported a huge amount of humanitarian aid. 

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We sent it to the East, we sent it to Kyiv. Medicines, bandages, heaters, sleeping bags. In short, we did everything we could do. And I was surprised that... 

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I remember the names of my patients, give or take, 7-8 thousand of them a year. And I saw that one patient sent, another... 100 hryvnias, 20, 50, 200 hryvnias, 1,000... 

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You, by the way, were not my patient, but you also sent a huge amount at the beginning of the war. I remember, I will never forget it. 
Everyone had to do it.


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Absolutely. I realised then that my patients were not just people who came to get a service and that was it. 

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They are, let’s say, relatives. It’s really a small, my own... Let’s call it that: it’s my own private army.

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Every story like this is a pain that we have to remember. Pain that the world should know and remember. We need to record these stories so that they can later 

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serve as additional evidence during the trial in The Hague against russia for the crimes it is still committing on the territory of independent Ukraine. 

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This story will definitely be included in the world’s largest archive of testimonies of civilian Ukrainians affected by the war, the Museum of Civilian Voices founded 

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by the Rinat Akhmetov Foundation. If you also have such a story and are ready to share it, or the story of your loved ones, 

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you can visit the Museum’s website or call the free hotline at 0800509001.

